it`s -200....but i like the over....
suleymanoglu has some fairly extensive amateur experience....and estrada took a licking and kept on ticking vs ishe.....neither guy`s a puncher.....neither has been stopped...
there are some solid overs if you can parlay your action....
trabant and klose looks like a distance fight(-340)....as does joval/soliman(-400).....i understand that much can go wrong...and the odds are substantial....but,these are rematches with non-punchers.....with guys that don`t get stopped...
i tied those 2 up with arambulet/niida over(it`s in),casamayor and elder/trejo over....
at first blush,i wanted to take raheem at +150....i haven`t been thrilled with juarez....he doesn`t always bring his "a" game...and we have a solid technician with a height and reach advantage...but,the houston venue really bothers me(burton/augustus still chafes..and i didn`t even bet it)...still considering...
took sam soliman as a dog at +153....younger...revenge..on a hot streak....joval won the first by majority decision at home....this one`s at a neutral site...
small on branco+225...trabant -140....
probably to many dogs....what the hell..
see a few more...be back...
btw.....anybody else tempted by the under 7.5 with teddy reid and kermit cintron?......
[This message was edited by sphincter on July 14, 2004 at 06:17 PM.]
suleymanoglu has some fairly extensive amateur experience....and estrada took a licking and kept on ticking vs ishe.....neither guy`s a puncher.....neither has been stopped...
there are some solid overs if you can parlay your action....
trabant and klose looks like a distance fight(-340)....as does joval/soliman(-400).....i understand that much can go wrong...and the odds are substantial....but,these are rematches with non-punchers.....with guys that don`t get stopped...
i tied those 2 up with arambulet/niida over(it`s in),casamayor and elder/trejo over....
at first blush,i wanted to take raheem at +150....i haven`t been thrilled with juarez....he doesn`t always bring his "a" game...and we have a solid technician with a height and reach advantage...but,the houston venue really bothers me(burton/augustus still chafes..and i didn`t even bet it)...still considering...
took sam soliman as a dog at +153....younger...revenge..on a hot streak....joval won the first by majority decision at home....this one`s at a neutral site...
small on branco+225...trabant -140....
probably to many dogs....what the hell..
see a few more...be back...
btw.....anybody else tempted by the under 7.5 with teddy reid and kermit cintron?......
[This message was edited by sphincter on July 14, 2004 at 06:17 PM.]
Oly doesnt even hold water to Pinny for boxing action right now. Pinny has a bunch of lines up and they post them before oly posts theirs.
The only lines they dont have up is DLH/Hop and Trinidad/Mayorga.
I have only seen Cintro a couple of times and I dont have a good feel for him yet but I Teddy is definitely KOable.
The only lines they dont have up is DLH/Hop and Trinidad/Mayorga.
I have only seen Cintro a couple of times and I dont have a good feel for him yet but I Teddy is definitely KOable.
gil...congrats on estrada...suleymanoglu looked like he thought he was still fighting 3 rounders....was woefully soft and out of shape.....stiffer than pinnochio`s dick....
very fortunate that he made the 12....he was on the verge of collapse several times....if he had been in with a puncher,it would have been curtains...
whew...
good job,gil.
very fortunate that he made the 12....he was on the verge of collapse several times....if he had been in with a puncher,it would have been curtains...
whew...
good job,gil.
was kinda looking at sim inside the distance at +315 and diaz by decision at +212.....for like a half unit each...so if they blow,it`s only like losing one play...
sim has trouble with boxers....he fought heavy punching yodsanan 3-k-battery and lost in thailand....but "3-k" was a big-time lefty puncher..almost all k.o.`s.....after 5 or six rounds,he was dancing away from sim....sim has very heavy hands...but,has trouble with boxers...
diaz is nicknamed the "baby bull"....he is an "in your face" fighter....not flashy....not particularly fast..not reallly a huge puncher...and a little soft looking.....this figures to be a war....he`s tough...but has been put on his pants by lesser punchers than sim...
if sim can`t get him out,i really don`t think that sim will get stopped....or get a decision...he hasn`t been stopped up to now in his career...
so i`m gonna touch sim inside the distance at+315 and diaz by decision at+212....for a total of 1 regular bet....half and half...so we only lose a regular bet if sim folds or miraculously wins a decision in texas...
i think sim has a shot.....i really do....i also think raheem has a shot....but,i hate the venue...and neither guy will get any love if these go to the cards....not in houston...
tough to cap these toss-ups.....with home court being so big....
really hoping for the soliman/joval over tomorrow night....big for me....and a soliman upset would be icing on the cake....g.l.
sim has trouble with boxers....he fought heavy punching yodsanan 3-k-battery and lost in thailand....but "3-k" was a big-time lefty puncher..almost all k.o.`s.....after 5 or six rounds,he was dancing away from sim....sim has very heavy hands...but,has trouble with boxers...
diaz is nicknamed the "baby bull"....he is an "in your face" fighter....not flashy....not particularly fast..not reallly a huge puncher...and a little soft looking.....this figures to be a war....he`s tough...but has been put on his pants by lesser punchers than sim...
if sim can`t get him out,i really don`t think that sim will get stopped....or get a decision...he hasn`t been stopped up to now in his career...
so i`m gonna touch sim inside the distance at+315 and diaz by decision at+212....for a total of 1 regular bet....half and half...so we only lose a regular bet if sim folds or miraculously wins a decision in texas...
i think sim has a shot.....i really do....i also think raheem has a shot....but,i hate the venue...and neither guy will get any love if these go to the cards....not in houston...
tough to cap these toss-ups.....with home court being so big....
really hoping for the soliman/joval over tomorrow night....big for me....and a soliman upset would be icing on the cake....g.l.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:
was kinda looking at sim inside the distance at +315 and diaz by decision at +212.....for like a half unit each...so if they blow,it`s only like losing one play...
sim has trouble with boxers....he fought heavy punching yodsanan 3-k-battery and lost in thailand....but "3-k" was a big-time lefty puncher..almost all k.o.`s.....after 5 or six rounds,he was dancing away from sim....sim has very heavy hands...but,has trouble with boxers...
diaz is nicknamed the "baby bull"....he is an "in your face" fighter....not flashy....not particularly fast..not reallly a huge puncher...and a little soft looking.....this figures to be a war....he`s tough...but has been put on his pants by lesser punchers than sim...
if sim can`t get him out,i really don`t think that sim will get stopped....or get a decision...he hasn`t been stopped up to now in his career...
so i`m gonna touch sim inside the distance at+315 and diaz by decision at+212....for a total of 1 regular bet....half and half...so we only lose a regular bet if sim folds or miraculously wins a decision in texas...
i think sim has a shot.....i really do....i also think raheem has a shot....but,i hate the venue...and neither guy will get any love if these go to the cards....not in houston...
tough to cap these toss-ups.....with home court being so big....
really hoping for the soliman/joval over tomorrow night....big for me....and a soliman upset would be icing on the cake....g.l.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yodsanan actually fought with Sim and outworked him. It was a real good fight though and the scores are really very inaccurate. I thought Yodsanan won 7-8 rounds not 10-11. Anyways, I would agree with your play for sure. I'd be SHOCKED if Sim got stopped by Diaz. If Diaz is dumb enough to fight with Sim, he's going to lose. if he fights a real good disciplined fight he may win.
was kinda looking at sim inside the distance at +315 and diaz by decision at +212.....for like a half unit each...so if they blow,it`s only like losing one play...
sim has trouble with boxers....he fought heavy punching yodsanan 3-k-battery and lost in thailand....but "3-k" was a big-time lefty puncher..almost all k.o.`s.....after 5 or six rounds,he was dancing away from sim....sim has very heavy hands...but,has trouble with boxers...
diaz is nicknamed the "baby bull"....he is an "in your face" fighter....not flashy....not particularly fast..not reallly a huge puncher...and a little soft looking.....this figures to be a war....he`s tough...but has been put on his pants by lesser punchers than sim...
if sim can`t get him out,i really don`t think that sim will get stopped....or get a decision...he hasn`t been stopped up to now in his career...
so i`m gonna touch sim inside the distance at+315 and diaz by decision at+212....for a total of 1 regular bet....half and half...so we only lose a regular bet if sim folds or miraculously wins a decision in texas...
i think sim has a shot.....i really do....i also think raheem has a shot....but,i hate the venue...and neither guy will get any love if these go to the cards....not in houston...
tough to cap these toss-ups.....with home court being so big....
really hoping for the soliman/joval over tomorrow night....big for me....and a soliman upset would be icing on the cake....g.l.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yodsanan actually fought with Sim and outworked him. It was a real good fight though and the scores are really very inaccurate. I thought Yodsanan won 7-8 rounds not 10-11. Anyways, I would agree with your play for sure. I'd be SHOCKED if Sim got stopped by Diaz. If Diaz is dumb enough to fight with Sim, he's going to lose. if he fights a real good disciplined fight he may win.
